. >> bill: look, there are places like the thomas moore law center and other pro bono groups that will defend you and every school district has lawyers on retainer that work for the district. so, that's just a copout. there is a lack of will and a lack of leadership in the christian communities in america generally speaking. generally speaking. i have to lead this campaign, that's who is leading it. the biggest sinner in the world is leading the campaign. >> i'm leading it, too. i'm leading it too. >> bill: i don't know what god is going, is there anybody else who can do this beside o'reilly? anybody? but we don't get -- we're not getting ms. pirro, leadership organized leadership from any of the churches. they are just won't engage. >> you know, it's interesting bill that you say that because i happen to agree with you. gretchen is right when she says it is just 1% that's making all of these objections. at the end of the day what you have got are christians who are not trying to shut down other religions. christians are not trying to convert they are not saying that atheist is wrong o